chamar caste surnames list in uplolo soetoro and halliburton

youre full of sh..t. thats why it is comming out of your mouth. Sorry Mr singh ji it is your identity. If you so proud why not use your true caste , if you dont have surname just use word Chamar after your name , but you are trying to deceive people . Were a different ethnicity than you people. No way on this earth .You use by default.I also notice certain Khatri and Brahmin names been passed off as also being chamar names.Using them by default.Fraud .No law against it and nobody can stop you but its false pretences.Its a given that you will deny this and be abusive .Listen..India treated everybody the same.No one got special treatment .In the case of Punjab and Jats,they are not responsible for what happened to you so take your blame elsewhere. I have friends that are chamar and i respect them and they are proud of there last names the true ones like kainth etc. 100 guna we people are doing torchur to all and we claim to be ahimsa wadi people? DAS , Someone wrote so well on the equality of humans, sharing with chamar brothers . This is suggestion to Mr. Anand who wanted to add his surname . Rana comes from Sanskrit and means "king.". thank you I urge all Chamars to take Amrit, it is the only way we will wholly be accepted not just by Jatts, but by society as a whole. Brahminism/Manuism will be a thing of past. Ranga They became scattered and the modern day romany or gypsies are the decendants of the Jatts. Nagar Kirtan Invitation 2010 be proud of be chamar. SS all bhagats and gurus rejected Hinduism. they were very educated and had read the religous scriptures of the Brahmins and they were unhappy about what they had read. A lot of Chamar names are same as Brahman and Jats. It is the 15% who control everything, so why blame the poor 85%, who are devoid or power and control. Scheduled Castes at the Cross Roads. What abt sarangals?? also gumarwal is a chamar namei belong to this family. INSTEAD OF LYING, YOU WILL SPEAK THE TRUTH. i hope all chamar should work hard to become no. While they changed their occupations , they did not change their ancestory lineage or gotras . These include: Jassal, kainth, heer, sandhu, bhatti, sahota, sidhu, kalsi, chopra, walia, bhola, johal, virdi, chahal, athwal and more for all I know. Sikhi has made everyone equal. So what can we dofirstly never ever even think you are Chamar (you are less, inferior) Do not get into this trap. (LogOut/ Over the last 5000 years these 15% have had RESERVATION over all power structures and kept the shudras oppressed into servitude in perpetuity. PRASRAM FOUGHT WIH SHANTNU STEP GREAT GRAND FATHER OF ARJUN-BROTHER INLAW OF KRISN REBUKED LAXMAN BROTHER OF RAM (SAME AGE) .BHARTIY SANSKRITI 6th 7th 8th incarnationS OF GOD MEET SIMULTNIOUSLY PARASRAM RAM KRISHN HERE . Being overtly proud of your caste is pointless. SOME OF THE SURNAMES DO NOT BELONG TO YOU CHAMAARS IN THE LIST ABOVE, SO STOP FLATTERING YOURSELVES AND FOOLING THE WORLD. Bhagat Ravidas Ji knew where his bani was going to be compiled and installed into, THE GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI.. Their are 15 Bhagats in GGSJ from all castes and yet they dont make a issue like Ravidassias are making. : You people who follow amritbani and Dera ballan etc do not represent the whole community. Impact of reservation to all such well going family is that poor family children not selected and not able to get reservation so if All SC/SC/OBC family want the benefit of their poor family than they should initiate charity coaching to such family and leave the reservation by weldoing family for their children, otherwise we would not be able to uplift the really needy family of SC/ST/OBC. The flawed backward system of Indias Hinduism which has branched its way throughout all continents of the globe. SANDHU is not a Chamar they are well know Jatt caste, brave and notorious, Momis are known as agriculturists and land owners in Punjab, who belong to Kamboj caste. Raja Chanvarsen[8] belongs to Chawar[9] Vansh of Chamars. Most commonly observed among Punjabis, Khatris also are Jaat's. But the above jatt lady had voted with her feet by marrying a chamar because she went for higher things than caste .ie love. you might always adjust the display quality through her numerous image controls which have been laid out inside Out of 100 the first talented person is Dr. B. R. Ambedkar. The caste system is so out dated. In this article, I will provide All Caste List which belongs to India. load of bull. Why dont you read Manusmriti for start and all the the other religious scriptures written by them and remember only they wrote them. sidhu gill virk are not sc and also jatt? Those questions only ever really arise on visits to India. ?..PLZ DO REPLY ITS REALLY URGENT. include, jatt chamar ek dusre ke bhai bhai hai inko alag mat kro, dhania,ranga,johal,dahiya,gahlot,mahandirata,mehndi,muwaal, these all peoples are belong chamar plz add. Sharma is neither a caste or gotra .. it is one of the many names of Lord Vishnu .. this is just FYI ! Do some research. Caste system needs to be destroyed and replaced with humanitarianism. Yes absolutely. You have repeated that most of the power is distributed among the Bahujan(ie sc, st, obc). Bhikhmangi caste maang maang ke khate ho salo haha :p ek tum jiske paida hue vo pandat group me aaya krta tere alle palle kuch nahi tu bullydog jaise mooh ka khudko bada samajhne laga sahi batau to tum jo aise bolte tumhare jaise gareebo pe hota kuch nahi caste pe uchelte ho, chamar pe har banda islie jalta haii tum kahi bhi jaao aj kal aage chamar betha milta hai badi badi seat pe uske aage jhukna padta tumhe unko salute thokna padta chamar ko namaste krni padti haii :p vernaa tum ho kya ek apne aap me badepann k alawa *kaam maang k khana *aaj bhi wahi poorabi chhotti soch tum anpadh logo ki *hamare jitni padhai nahi ker pae tum back paisa approach sab kuch hone k bawjood! This included the following surnames: U silly shit. so admin i just wanted to knw that how could it b possible??? Thanks. Ill add more when I remember. Please tell me about karday Goth in chamar religion. we are all sikh first then we break into castehowever i will say i am a ramgaria or tukkan.and we all get labeled as caste racist >>>>but i tell u one thing >>>>CHAMARS are just as racist when it comes to jaat paat. You are all equal. Aaj ham acchi position me aa rahe hai dheere dheere. Bains surname vi add kr deyo pls. Wages were always paid in food, barely enough to survive. r yours? my email id is sizzlingvivek14@gmail.com. I do not harbour toxic sentiment, i was simply providing the lady with the context and background as to why caste is an important topic for our community. I have full report of abuse and harrasment. Sahota is jatt gotra. , | , | , | , , , | , Ik Var Fer gajj ke Bolo Ji jai Guru Dev. code caste 1 brahmin 2 chamar 3 harijan 4 julaha 5 koli 6 luhar 7 nai (barber) 8 rajput 9 teli (oilman) 9. state wise list of castes state karnataka code caste 1 acharas . Vinod Kumar Desiangel do not talk like unclutured and uneducated person. there was no age differance in ram /lakshman /bharat /satrughan who born same day when dashrath gone. bina akal ke hi hum tumhe apne under me rakhte hai aur aka;l laga di to tab kya hoga socha hai kabhi .. Toh tum kya socthe ho bus tum hi harami ban sakte ho kya hum harami toh tum humase bhi jyada harami ho hamare pass to 20-30% reservation h tum logo ke pass toh 70% h fir bhi rothe hi rahte ho so sad ;( beta ye manu ke rule ni chate ab india me It portrays an image of drinking, guns, half-naked women, flash cars etc. SC. Chamar is second largest community of india.time to time higher caste converted in chamar for many purpose and reasons so lower caste and higher caste communitys surname are same.we are same. Let us clarify the facts based on evidence not prejudice and fiction. The Brahmins created caste to favour nobody but themselves. Please Add My Surname in Your Names List Because I Am A Chamar Boy & My Whole Village Surname is Manghra So Dear Plz Add My Surname ( MANGHRA ) in Your List.I AM Very Thankful to You. From what i can see you have condemned many people on this feed for using inappropriate and vulger remarks, but you have decided to defend this lady simply because she married a chamar. . He has a huge family, all chumars. Banke Chamar is freedom fighter and Rebellion of 1857 first independence revolt of India. Also understand Aryan tribes from Brahmins to Jutts or Shudras have always been very traditional and protective of their system as they migrated from west Asia , even Rajput and other Juts who became Muslims were alienated and Brahmins , jatts (even Sikhs) and other Hindus would never eat in their homes.. this practice was used as recent as 1947 . Virk India is for all castes we come from the same land, flag and when India does well we all feel much better. You should tell your caste boldly and unapologetically. They therefore refrain from corrupt practices and are too afraid to engage in such practices for fear of losing their jobs. . Sandhu isnt chamar. If anybody knows plz whats app And yes if you are so concern about birth control, go join a fucking NGO, why are you wasting your time here! Ashish Ranga, Hisar.haryana, Mai Sirf Tuhade Kolo Eh Puchna Veer Ke Mainu Eh Daso Ke Sahota Surnam Chamar vich Onda Hai Ke Nai Plz Feedback JAroor Deyo It Is Very Important, u should one more add chamar surname shouan. My husband is chumar. They have deceived millions of ppls around the world by calling themselves with higher caste names!! my chamar caste and beliefs doesnot allow me to harass other innocent . In the past, Chamar had shared better relationship with the Pasis, another Dalit caste. jai gurudev, remove sandhu from the list as soon as possible. Surely he will be punished by law for posting derogatory comments for SC/ST. but here we cannot hide bravery of mazabi sikhs and some others. HINDU word in fact is the name given by Muslim invaders. the person discriminated me is a Brahim and I am lower caste, he abused me for over year and 4 month, I was humilated by him, harrased by him even racialy abused by others due to he was speading false propaganda gainst me. Yrr please reply jrur krii mainu ahaa dsss virk sandhu kdo to sc hoo geee ?????? Garhshanker, Satinder Singh Janagal pls add Chamar, Jatav, Ahirwar, Kureel, Dhusia . I you want any type of help regarding Graphic Designing, Video Editing, Video Compositing, 3D Animation, Short Movies etc. Who ever uses these names and identifies as a chamar is either lying or ignorant. I am 6.2 in heigt, b.com honrs graduate from delhi university, national in volley ball, has a well muscular fit body, is a fitness model. But your pride and arrogance blinds you. All bhardwaj are not chamar we also seen bhardwaaj barhman all r brothers n sisters . They take every famous caste to be their own. You cannot be a Jat and also a sikh , because to call yourself a jat you are edorsing the caste system and by calling yourself as a sikh you are rejecting the caste system. Thanks jai guru ravidass ji maharaj, rall,jhamat,jakhu,ladhar and chawla,loi,kalsi also in chamar community, i believe no one beats jats and they r the best, lol If you want to call it believing in caste than go ahead, but being a Jatt is part of my ancestral heritage. Jatts dont decide who is Singh or not. In Punjab, they are mainly found in Ludhiana, Patiala, Amritsar and Jalandhar cities. dont take my words offensive. Padai ke jada sadhan nahi hote. The Sikh Gurus knew about these lies. They have nothing left and resent the rise of those who worked for them. Ive met some f#k#d ppl in my life but this twat has topped it, he thinks that surnames belong to jatt only. hamarae caste s belong krtae h. hmnae dunia ko ek dharam dia h.. bhangi jaati apne ko chamar se upar manti h, Can you please tell us where is raju gout jathere.its urgent. I believe Chamars and everyone else should have the same opportunities as anyone else in life. I dont think of it as my caste I think of it as my heritage, that is all.. It is one of the common surnames among Indian Brahmins. Most of the actors and actresses are from the higher castes. Ostracism from caste was a powerful tool for a number of reasons, for example breaching caste rules.Thus brahmins who performed ceremonies for shudras, were thrown out of caste into outcastes ie untouchables including chamars. . It is also the 109,631 st most frequent first name on earth, borne by 4,046 people. Indian society needs to be rebuild on the principles of liberty, equality and fraternity. Sikh chamar only have Singh & Kaur. Kalson family is very reputed family of haryana every body knows the kalson sir name in haryana, pls add the kalson sir name is to sirname list of kalson. ha ha ha hahahaha. Ravidassia religion is only causing problems and segregating community. I have known a chamar pretending to be a Sandhu.A small conversation and it all came out as expected.Another chamar,very educated due to the reservation system always made friends with Jats or Brahmins.Next thing you know he puts Sharma on the end of his name.He began to believe his own hype until he tried to get married in a hindu mandhir.So the same here.To repeat Johal,Sahota,Sandhu,Virk are all Jat names no question.No shared with anybody else.If Jats are secure in their own identityit does not mean they look down on anybody else.Its not our job to buoy chamars up.Its the Indian govt who trod on you.Its the hindu religion who tarred you.Leave Jats and Sikhism out of your gripe. This website is propagating these Ravidassias. We need to get rid of this evil mindset of caste bias and this can only happen if you people boldly and unapologetically, stand up for yourselves. I have been married for 15 years. but overall average they considered hard worker, brave and open hearted . If our people ever spoke of the injustice they suffered, they faced starvation for them and their whole families. ja gurudev, U can add Phoondpal also. KALSON is also a chamar surname sirf bramhan dikhte he? one should not blame others for selfshortcomings n feel proud of immatrial values n start abusing . . You have also assumed that the jobs are given to lower castes by virtue of them being lower caste and not by merit. i m punia chamar. Even after everything was done not much changed. thanks. sade pind 22 bayie naal jattan di kudi paj gyi nale jehriya gallan tu kadi jana ohna da koi fyada ni hai . Cham-E-Aar caste came into existence only in Mughal Islamic rulers time in India. I am one among them, many times i keep mum on the issue of castes. Sorry to hear that you faced dsicrimination based on caste at work. But coming here and making rude remarks about her husbands community is not the right way to go about addressing the issue. In fact there are quite a few surnames there that arent!! Some surname in this list doesnt belong to chamar caste . You could speak to your local councillor or MP who will also assist you. not true at all, Ohh virk jattan da got aa chamara da nii ess lai virk got ktto apni site cho , Sahi aa praa ena ne ta sandhu v chamar bnaa tee. On this list there are many many names that belong to our BRAHMIN Caste. Im niether Jatt or Chamar but this is sadhopefully one day the Human Race will evolve from such backward thinking. FISHERMAN FISH MACHHI =MACHI =MOCHI=MONCHI KOL KOLI =KOHLI =KORI SKIN CHAM =CHAMAR SC ,BC ,GENRAL IS CLEAR BAT JAT ORIGIN FROM HERE OF SHIV NOT CLEAR. Bhisi 3.. Shalhru. We are all born the same way. Bains, Sidhu, Atwal, Summan, Chahal, Bhatti, Hira, Heer, etc are also common chamar surnames. Then doesnt matter because everyone knows my face and can tell my caste. Mere sale, tujh se ziada beakal shayad hi koi ho. Punjab National Bank, I have also challenged Jatts to find a Ravidassia sikh or chamar to have his genetic y chromozomes scientifically checked to prove conclusively that Jatts do not have monopoly on jatt surnames. I hope my words have not hurt anyone. When 5 fingers ( Punjabi) put together, it become a powerful punch. But we are Momi Gorta which is not showing in the list. reservation is a right ok. or bhai vo sarkar esliue nahi de rhi ki koi ehsaan kar rhi ho lowerclass people par. if you study what I wrote deeply all your anger will go away.. what you think is that Dalits were exploited but the point you are missing is that Dalits were never part of the migrating Indo Aryan tribes , they were never assigned any caste which was Hindu system and considered outsiders , people who didnt belong to this group which divided itself in different caste or profession Brahmins , Kshatriya , Vaishya and Shudra ( farmers) . 10 Rows 20 Rows 50 Rows 100 Rows 250 Rows 300 Rows. The king chastised Vishnu for reciting the Vedas, an act forbidden for a Shudra. Forget about caste, its nothing to be proud of. I am a jatt. agaey ana he to kya hunaar nhi chahiye sirf jaat k naam se sab k uper baitho? jo khud kuch nahi kar sakte na unhe hi ye sab dimag main aata hai. are all Brahmin last names. Many still practice these backwards traditions to date. I have a friend who is a klair and he is definitely a chamar. Ambedkar ke Janam Divas ke hardik badhai. Some people of chamar caste have surname RAVIDAS or RABIDAS. The youth of today can only change this by not getting influenced or brainwashed by backward Dera like Dera Ballan Best of luck people, life is short, dont waste it on ridiculous, stupid, backward topics, learn to move on. I totally agree with everything you have said, as a sikh I dont believe in caste but I do belong to the ramdasia/ravidassia sikh community.. there is no bad if Jatt people proud of their caste history. hw da fuk is sandhu nd singh a chamar u fukin dumb asss dnt nw anyfin den dnt post it up , YO BLUD SAHOTA IS A JATT GET UR FUKIN FACTS RIGHT . It was debated and lot of the countrys leaders at that time thought it was the right affirmative action to take and it was agreed that if caste system continues to debilitate and discriminate against scheduled castes, the former untouchables, the reservation should continue. Secondly we are very proud of who we are Chamars. We finally have the right to educate ourselves, lift ourselves out of poverty, speak of the injustices we face and give our future generations the same chances in life that you have. What answer u get U R SIKH THE TRUE SPIRIT Also ANTI CASTE DISCRIMINATION ALLIANCE. Tatarpuriya gotra under this gotra It provides a Content Archives which is made up of pre-loaded content which include recipes together with fitness work outs and DLNA trained connectivity. The CHOOREYS AND CHAMAARS ARE COUSINS!! No matter what, if traced back to the their origins these are all JATT last names. Note: Spread this message as much as possible in your social group or social media so that more and more people can join and cooperate in this socially virtuous work. Sidhu Jatav Ekta jinda bad. Vande Matram, Jai Bharat Shri Param Lowe ji, Bhen ke lodo walia caste ka status bhot high hai chutyio tum chamar ho sabko chamar na bnayo varna saare chamaro ko khatam kar denge, Very nice information please PDF format sand me, I am ravidasia Sikh , my gote kairay or (kaiday) please ade in list, JO GALAT COMMENT KR RHE HO NA BABA SAHEB AMBEDKAR KI BADOLAT 8 GHANTE DUTEY KR PA RHE HO. These castes and Relegions are all created by humans and can never better than your humans. Account No. Medal and parihar are also chamar surname. Jatt is a race and an ethnicity, it cant be forgotten it will always be part of who we are. We should only judge people according to their actions (Karma). It makes me really angry when people use choora chamar as caste abuses. Our parents have taught us well lol. Ravidassias are promoting their own caste and casteism in general and also politics which I believe is wrong and opposite way to tackle things to our gurus. Ghande toh inshan k avgun hote hai. I think ravidassia needs to promote what ravidass wanted not its own agenda. However, If you or your ancesters were outcasted like many chamars from higher castes for infringment of caste rules and retained your surname and has been used by your family since time immomorial then you are a chamar like everybody else here. ETC, 22 khokar to mazahabi hote h agar punjab side ka ho to btaiyo k atwal kya chamar surname h, Please Add These Also. as well as frame transition which are unbelievably clean and smooth Be proud boy! Kataria Parivaar Jathere where village in punjab anybody tell me plzzz. u may not have created this. they gave me really hard time and I was in depression and stress and now they are even sending kids to my home to scar me away. Amazing what conclusions people come to when their ignorance and poor education and adherance to propaganda by the Hinduvta agenda propagated by the RSS and BJP brings out the worst in them and dictates their intellect. Ahirwar, Mandrah, Waxer, Minote, Pahade, Baghel, Choukhe, Piple, Chouria. And one more thing as we all know that the majority of dalit people comes from punjab but Aur jino kuch ni krna wo bolte hai sc st ko.. Bro inse ye bhi pucho k uss waqt kyu chup ho jaate ho jab general and sc combined list main bhi sc top karjaate hain. My father name is :RAM DASS You guys arent related to us and dont give me some bullshit you are. Jai ho, Why chamar gotar match with jatt gotar, like sidhu,Sandhu etc. Ravidass says, the achuuts( ie the untouchables/dalits) were the rulers of India. We finally, after all the hardships, have a voice, and i for one am glad that my people are using it. Another example is where there was intermarriage breaching marriage rule..Where this took place they were also outcasted and often sought refuge with the outcastes including chamars. I love ths comunity. hats off to your knowledge but you missed somthing .. WHY DONT YOU FUCKING SCUMS OF THE EARTH FUCK THE HELL OFF!! However, when very low caste sikhs migrated to countries such as the US, Canada and the UK, they thought of it as a chance to start a clean slate where people would not be able to identify their caste. When the king apologized, the god declared that the Chamars will get an opportunity to rise again in the Kaliyuga after the appearance of a new sage (whom Surjyabanshi identifies as Ravidas). If you look at sikhi it has no caste. All those people who work were classified as Sudras . Ohnu banke khadhappe sapp dhangiye.. Raghbir Singh. Than why u chamars using high caste surnames? Me a film writer-director and author of booksbelong to chamar caste of uttar pradeshi am proud to be a ravidasiya, I ASHISH BERVA BIRTH 07.07.1989 FROM KATKUT(M.P) MY CONTECT NO.9926263097, I AM SATISH BERVA I BLONG FOR M.P AT KATKUT MY CAST IS CHAMAR IN BERVA MY BORNE 7 JULAI 1992 AT INDORE MY CONTECT NO.9669926653, add those gatram you dumbass hav forget =, Dalit di gotram = dhillon gill dalilwale padda randhawa (tonk kastrya) . In MAHARASHTRA sirnames of chamar:- Suradkar. CC: Dear fellow mates, no need to be decent with retards like Sh. Just keep cleaning my shoes. Remove this name from your last names list. Sr No. Thakare. The problem with you is you do not know what the truth is and when the truth is being told to you, you resent it and it perplexes you because you do not want your surname to be associated with low castes because of your pride. and im a chura chamar of dudley road Vinod Kumar Please reference the above in your list yo avoid unnecessary confusion. The problem with these chamaars is that they are fucking ignorant, backward, dirty and hypocrites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Saru says. They helped to capture thousands of hindi speaking soldiers mostly Chamars of UP and Bihar who revolted against Britishers in Lahore Cantonment. charansing argued that beva mataka cant be reused as waterpot n became pm not to face parliament even for a day . Can you please add more surnames such as Heer, Banga, Bhardwaj etc. Heer ORDERS OF VARIOUS COURTS . Religious practices and taboos differ from region to region and caste to caste. I agree with you but unfortunately the Rajputs are one of the most castist ,racist people in India and the world. If a Chamar has a Jatt last name, he/she is just a Chamar with a Jatt last name, this does not make it a Chamar last name, we dont have the same heritage. The rise of chamars is resented by the very people who oppressed us. To conclude by having sarovars in gurudwaras or adjacent to worship place Guru ji made a successful attempt to remove the deep rooted believe in caste based discrimination. yes Sahota is Chamar surname i am sahota as well. Vairry nu puttha tangiye.. This is why we talk about caste so much, because we have suffered the most from it, it has shackeled us for generations. Brahmins , Kashatriyas and Vaishivs did not create anything nor work . If our people ever spoke of the injustice they suffered, they faced starvation for them and their whole families. (barara) l belongs to a chamar family and i am proud for it. Marriage is always between a man and a woman but certainly not between castes.Foolish people search for spouses within a caste region or religion. https://www.sikhcastes.com/sikh-caste-names/jat-sikh-subcastes, Free fire ka probanda vansh ji please pick up the phone, https://ravidassia.wordpress.com/we-are-not-sikhs/, https://ravidassia.wordpress.com/#pd_a_2760757, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ypPI2oR0o. Ive lost my grandparents or specifically my father origin. Isnt it better to change ourselves still staying in the guidance of our Bhagats, Gurus and GGSJ.. It is a similar situation like Native Americans and Austroloids ( Native Australians) .. SC or dalit people are native tribal communities and were not accepted by migrating Aryan tribes from Brahmins to Shudra , this is the reason they were considered out caste and not assigned any caste which is a traditional Hindu systems. fr kya ho gya agar heer jatt surname hai..aap bhi to ek he asmaan ke niche rehte ho.y u people r nt undrstand ki aap ek bagwaan ke bete ho.fr chamar kya jatt kya..kya hai yeh.kyu etni nafrat krte ho tum jatt lok.y kya hai apke man me chamaaro ke khilaaf.plz reply. Plenty of charlatan sikhs like you about. industrial minister of haryana).punia also jat bisnoi. soch ko badalna jaruri hai. i am from trinidad west indies,,,, it took me 59 years to find out tru countless pundits in this country about what caste i belong,,, only to realise now ,, that i am chamar,,, the pundit didnt disclose it,,, i went somewhere else to find out my surname is sookra,,, can you get any people there who share this name,,, so i can 100% verify my identity? Dont worry about these Brahmins they are the biggest pussies on the planet, one slap and its a knock out. Therefore, it is a humble request to give maximum donation and cooperate in this social pious work by giving your contribution. Nobody knows for sure who or where they decended from. some favoured own group given all facilities of enjoyment n others continously were cheated /hated which created havocs /intolerance /fights/ killinngs inhuman acts .

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